What Can Birds Teach Us About Faith? Conversation with Perin Gurel

What if the birds around us were inviting us to see the world—and ourselves—in an entirely new way? Daisy Khan speaks with Perin Gurel, a University of Notre Dame professor, about her novel Laleh and The Language of the Birds and its roots in Attar’s Conference of the Birds , real ornithology, and her daughter’s original story idea. They explore Laleh’s coming-of-age journey after her ornithologist father disappears, the blend of Sufism, ecology, and feminism in the book, and practical ways for teens and adults to reconnect with nature by listening and learning common birds. 01:09 Why Write This Novel 02:42 Birds as Messengers 03:47 Laleh and Her Father 04:45 Disappearance and Growth 06:32 Learning Bird Language 08:12 Bird Dialects and Culture 09:14 Tricksters Like Cowbirds 10:45 Conference of Birds Today 12:20 Birds Hijack Twitter 13:59 Crows and Ecofeminism 15:46 Science Meets Sufi Myth 17:20 Wisdom from a Talking Bird 19:14 Bicultural Identity and Sufism #ReadToGrow #Wisdom #Iqra #WISEWomenPodcast #GrowthMindset #SelfDiscovery #Motivation #Ornithology Daisy's Socials: Website: https://daisykhan.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/daisykhan.nyc/?hl=en Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drdaisykhan/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/daisy.khan.56246/ X: https://x.com/DaisyKhan